Wednesday, March 16, 2016

Ohio is One Dumb State

Their Democrats voted for a woman who helped offshore their best jobs; and their Republicans voted for someone who would raise their retirement age and cut their Social Security benefits. Stupid doesn't get any more stupid than that. Once again Michigan showed more common sense.

Donald Trump won Ohio's white working-class (defined as white non-college voters), 44 percent to John Kasich's 36 percent, but that wasn't enough to win Ohio. Similarly, Bernie Sanders won Ohio's white-working class, 50 percent to Hillary Clinton's 48 percent, but that too, was insufficient to win Ohio. White working-class voters constituted 46 percent of the Republican primary electorate and 36 percent of the Democratic primary electorate.

Let that sink in: Kasich and Clinton lost Ohio's large white-working class but they won their primaries anyway. How did they manage that? Well, Kasich won big with college graduates (49 percent to Trump's 33 percent) and with postgrads (60 percent to Trump's 26 percent.)

Hillary nosed out Sanders with college grads (52-47 percent) and clobbered Sanders with postgrads (60-39 percent). She also clobbered Sanders with voters who had at most four years of high school, 62-37 percent. Trump beat Kasich with that group, 47-32 percent, but it wasn't enough to make a difference; this cohort represented only 18 percent of the Republican primary electorate and 17 percent of the Democratic primary electorate.

Clinton also beat Sanders with Ohio's union households (56-44 percent). Twenty-four percent of the state's Democratic primary voters lived in a union household. Almost precisely the reverse happened with union families in Missouri, where Bernie beat Clinton among union households, 53-46. Twenty-one percent of Missouri voters lived in a union household.

Thanks to voters in Ohio (and those ignorant fools in the South), the last great chance of a lifetime for electing an honest person to the White House is almost (but not entirely) impossible now. Now you have a lying piece of crap beholden to special interests who doesn't give a damn about you but only about being aboard Air Force One again.

The corporate media, with their huge megaphones, can keep spreading the Clintons’ neoliberal propaganda. I’m ashamed that the American people can be so stupid, voting for someone they don’t trust and a known liar. I bitterly feel they deserve what they get, but at the same time, feel remorse and disappointment for all those people who voted for Bernie Sanders.

For months the corporate media had put Bernie in a bad light and treated him disrespectfully (as did Clinton). Then after last night’s election, they were being kind and gracious, just to appease Bernie supporters so that they would vote for her in the general election. Their manipulation, insults and lies enraged me.

It is so frustrating to be living under the leadership of so much evil and corruption. The "establishment" tells us how great America is, then compares our country to another that is more evil and corrupt, and reminds us how lucky we are that we don’t live there — and how grateful we should be.

That is total BS. This country, the world, could be so much better without our politicians' greed and corruption. I hope "plan B" is that Bernie runs and splits up the corrupt Democratic and two-party system in this country. Even if Bernie doesn’t win, it can punish the lying and corrupt Clintons. Hopefully Bernie and his followers can start a new third party – an honest party, by the people and for the people, and not for the corporations and banks.

Thanks a lot Ohio! Stupid fools, voting for someone you don't even trust. I guess being in college doesn't make one so smart after all. So don't complain about college tuition costs. I expected this kind of ignorance in the South, but I guess it's spread to the North too.

UPDATE: On March 3rd Gaius Publius at Washington's Blog wrote:

Because of the way the Democratic Party voting calendar is structured this year, Clinton’s largest lead will occur on March 15. After that, most of Sanders’ strongest states will vote. What this means is simple:
  • Hillary Clinton will grow her lead until the March 15 states have voted.
  • Bernie Sanders will erase that lead — partly or completely — after March 15.
  • How much of Clinton’s lead he will erase depends on your not buying what the media is selling — that the contest is over.
  • In most scenarios where Sanders wins, he doesn’t retake the lead until June 7, when five states including California cast their ballots. [Actually, it's 6 states, and California alone offers 546 delegates.]

March 15th is the Ides of March; a good way to remember the date. The message — gear up for a battle after the Ides of March, and don’t let the establishment media tell you what to think. They won’t be right until the last state has voted.

Two articles (link and link) at The Nation this morning concur:

  • "The fact of the matter is that the first half of the primary schedule favored Clinton. The second half will favor Bernie."
  • "The rest of the primary calendar is more favorable to Sanders ... But the establishment remains unified in the face of the Sanders insurgency."

I once thought the same thing, believing that Clinton might take Florida, North Carolina and Missouri — because she did so well in the South, principally because of the Black vote (maybe mostly women). But when I saw Illinois — but ESPECIALLY Ohio — go to Clinton, then I had began to have my doubts. I suppose we'll see.

2nd Update: This is very encouraging news if you are a Bernie Sanders supporter. Watch this short video, it will lift your spirts!

13 comments:

  1. Illinois is dumb too, but with all the corruption in Chicago, it was a toss up.

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  2. CBS News: Hillary Clinton claims Bernie Sanders is reflexively against any trade deals, saying "His position is so anti, he's against things before they're finished, before they're read."

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-is-reflexively-against-any-trade-deals/

    Clinton praised the TPP trade deal 45 times, saying it was the "gold standard" — but then she said she changed her mind when her learned what was in it. So while shoving this corporate-sponsored trade deal down our throats, she claims she didn't know what she was shoving? Bernie made a point of saying he's for "fair" trade deals, not deals that only helps big multi-national corporations.

    New York Times (January 8, 1996) New York Times: "Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our First Lady — a woman of undoubted talents who was a role model for many in her generation — is a congenital liar."

    http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/08/opinion/essay-blizzard-of-lies.html

    Yes, Ohio is one very stupid state.

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  3. The rest of the primary calendar is more favorable to Sanders ... But the establishment remains unified in the face of the Sanders insurgency, which would be reason enough for Sanders to carry on his fight all the way to Philadelphia — even if it really were mathematically impossible for him to win the nomination (a point we are still unlikely to reach before California votes on June 7). The strength of Sanders’s challenge, and the enthusiasm of his supporters, have already pulled Hillary Clinton off dead center on police violence, trade policy, access to education, and making the wealthy pay their share of taxes. [Not that she'll actually ever advocate for those things if she becomes president]. But as long as Bernie stays in the race, and stays true to his beliefs, Sanders will keep winning those arguments — even if Clinton’s willingness to steal her opponent’s best ideas, and even some of his best lines — to help her to win voters who will be crucial in defeating Trump in November. Turnout remains the Democrats’ Achilles heel: in Ohio, where Trump came second, he still got more votes than either Democrat. Are the odds against Bernie? Of course. That’s what it means to live inside a rigged system.

    http://www.thenation.com/article/the-fight-for-bernies-political-revolution-is-not-over/

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  4. Dan Cantor, the national director of the Working Families Party, which backs Sanders, said: "Tomorrow, the political establishment will say once again that Bernie can’t win. That’s nothing new. They’ve been singing that tune since before the primary even started. But every single week, Bernie’s support gets stronger and stronger. Tonight, Bernie’s North Carolina performance was 15 points better than his South Carolina performance last month, and 5 points better than his Virginia performance two weeks ago. This is a close race, and it will be contested in every state. The fact of the matter is that the first half of the primary schedule favored Clinton. The second half will favor Bernie. The only question is whether it will be enough. We intend to do everything we can to make sure it is.”

    http://www.thenation.com/article/clinton-had-a-very-good-night-but-the-democratic-race-is-far-from-finished/

    The rest of the primary calendar is more favorable to Sanders ... But the establishment remains unified in the face of the Sanders insurgency, which would be reason enough for Sanders to carry on his fight all the way to Philadelphia — even if it really were mathematically impossible for him to win the nomination (a point we are still unlikely to reach before California votes on June 7). The strength of Sanders’s challenge, and the enthusiasm of his supporters, have already pulled Hillary Clinton off dead center on police violence, trade policy, access to education, and making the wealthy pay their share of taxes. [Not that she'll actually ever advocate for those things if she becomes president]. But as long as Bernie stays in the race, and stays true to his beliefs, Sanders will keep winning those arguments — even if Clinton’s willingness to steal her opponent’s best ideas, and even some of his best lines — to help her to win voters who will be crucial in defeating Trump in November. Turnout remains the Democrats’ Achilles heel: in Ohio, where Trump came second, he still got more votes than either Democrat. Are the odds against Bernie? Of course. That’s what it means to live inside a rigged system.

    http://www.thenation.com/article/the-fight-for-bernies-political-revolution-is-not-over/

    In the comments section Gerry Cullen says: If elected Billary would drop the progressive talk and become the coporate poodle that she really is. This primary has shown how corrupt she and the DNC really are. Thanks to Bill and Hill the Democratic Party has long left the working people behind. Many voters see this, that's why the Dems lost big in 2014. And now if the DNC has it's way and Billary is the candidate the Democrats will lose the White House too.

    [* No, "Billary" is not a sexist remark. It is a definition for the Clinton team of Bill and Hillary, and putting both pathological liars back in the White House again for what could be another 8 years — making it a total of 16, more than FDR — who had won 4 legitimate consecutive terms by national landslides.]

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  5. Ohio is one dumb state. Did I say that already?

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  6. Iowa, the first to vote, was extremely close. Nevada (because Harry Reid rigged the election for Hillary) was also very close. Massachusetts (without Elizabeth Warren's endorsement) was also very close. Illinois (despite their corrupt political system) was also very close. Even Missouri was extremely close. The ONE AND ONLY disappointment so far was Ohio. But Bernie can actually win all the remaining states.
    See how close, check out the election results:

    http://bud-meyers.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_13.html

    Here's how Harry rigged Nevada:

    http://bud-meyers.blogspot.com/2016/02/sen-harry-reid-helps-rig-nevada.html

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  7. Remaining States to vote (Note the lack of Confederate Southern States that's been favorable to Clinton.)

    March 22 - Arizona, Idaho and Utah

    March 26 - Alaska, Hawaii and Washington State

    April 5 - Wisconsin
    April 9 - Wyoming
    April 19 - New York

    April 26 - Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island

    May 3 - Indiana

    May 10 - West Virginia

    May 17 - Kentucky and Oregon

    June 7 - California, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, South Dakota

    June 14 - Washington D.C.

    July - DNC convention

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  8. How did Clinton win Ohio? By replicating the same coalition she’s maintained throughout the prior 23 contests. The Democratic front-runner had support from 73 percent of Obama backers, 61 percent of women and 65 percent of non-white voters.

    http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/oh/Dem

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    1. Unlike Michigan, trade did not sink HRC in Ohio:

      Ohio Democrats expressed substantial anti-trade sentiment, with 53 percent saying trade with other countries takes away U.S. jobs according to preliminary exit poll results reported by CNN.

      But Clinton won this group by 7 points, a reversal from Sanders’s 15-point win in this group in Michigan. Clinton also fared 9 points better among Democrats who were more positive on trade, suggesting the Ohio electorate was broadly more favorable to her than Michigan’s.

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    2. In Ohio, she ran about even with Sanders among white voters. In Michigan, she trailed him by 14 points with whites. In other words, the old calculus -- more black voters means a Clinton win -- was back in effect, because she wasn't hammered by whites.”

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  9. Huffington Post: Donald Trump Got More Votes In Ohio Than Hillary Clinton

    Tuesday was a very good day for Hillary Clinton. She swept primary challenger Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in five states, effectively ending his chances of securing the Democratic presidential nomination. But buried within the clear victory was a troubling trend for the party front-runner: She is doing a terrible job turning out voters, particularly in the states that will matter most in a November matchup against Donald Trump.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-trump-ohio_us_56e9a0b8e4b065e2e3d8314c

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    1. We might be GREAT again instead of WHOLE again! Oh crap!!!!

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  10. "The disappointment, to be honest with you, was in Ohio," Sanders then said. "I had hoped that we had an outside shot to winning Ohio. Losing there by 15 points was a disappointment."

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/19/politics/bernie-sanders-ohio-hillary-clinton/

    (If Bernie loses, Hillary will find so lame excuse to pass TPP, you can bet on that Ohio!!!)

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