Wednesday, March 9, 2016

Highlights of 8th Democratic Debate March 9, 2016 (Florida)

Post-debate Update:

The best zinger of the 8th democratic debate was made by Bernie Sanders — here, in his own words. (That was after Hillary Clinton claimed she "took on Wall Street", which was when she gave a paid speech to Nasdaq on December 5, 2007.)


As of this post, you can re-play the entire 8th Democratic Debate in Florida at Fusion's channel on YouTube (presented by Univision & The Washington Post) For convenience, I made a highlights video for those that don't have the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqgTFA1HnUM

Full transcript of the debate here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/09/transcript-the-post-univision-democratic-debate-annotated/

A great deal of the debate was about immigration reform, American foreign policy in Central America, refugees, normalizing relations with Cuba, Sanders remarks about Fidel Castro from 1985, deporting children and splitting families apart, driver’s licenses for the undocumented, securing the border (etc.) — and about Clinton's emails, climate change and Benghazi. 

The 13-minute video below only covers the subjects of the Goldman Sach's transcripts, campaign contributions, Wall Street reform, the Koch brothers, the Export/Import bank, the auto bailout, the fossil fuel industry and the revolving door (lobbyists).

The video below is JUST ABOUT THE EMAILS

When Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, a cable went out (under her signature) warning employees to "avoid conducting official Department business from your personal email accounts." 

So Clinton’s decision to use a private email system for official business was highly unusual and flouted State Department procedures, even if not expressly prohibited by law at the time.

Moreover, Clinton appears to have not complied with the requirement to turn over her business-related emails before she left government service. 

Today her pundits on the cable news channels were calling the FBI's investigation a "security review" — although the FBI does no such reviews.

To be clear, just like Obama's previous Attorney General (Eric Holder) did not prosecute any bankers, neither will Obama's current Attorney General (Loretta Lynch) prosecute anyone in his administration for poison water in Flint Michigan, or for security breeches on private email servers.

So during the 8th Democratic debate, when asked if she will drop out of the presidential race if she is indicted over emails, she said "Oh for goodness - that is not going to happen. I am not going to even answer that question."

Through his White House press spokesperson, Obama has essentially endorsed Hillary Clinton, as did Obama's previous Attorney General (Eric Holder); so there is NO WAY IN HELL, no matter what Hillary Clinton has every done that may be illegal, she will never be prosecuted for anything...and she knows that. 

Hillary Clinton and Obama's administration is ABOVE THE LAW.

As of this post: Who won the 8th Democratic debate?

Bernie Sanders 94.72% (3,388 votes)
Hillary Clinton 5.28% (189 votes)
Total Votes: 3,577
http://www.syracuse.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/03/poll_who_won_the_8th_democratic_2016_presidential_debate.html 

Bernie Sanders 94.3% (6,504 votes)
Hillary Clinton 5.7% (393 votes)
Total Votes: 6,897
http://fox5sandiego.com/2016/03/09/poll-who-won-the-8th-democratic-debate/# 

Check out my clips from the 7th debate
http://bud-meyers.blogspot.com/2016/03/7th-democratic-debate-best-recaps-not.html

Bernie Sanders, in a historical upset, just recently beat Hillary Clinton to win the State of Michigan --- but the mainstream media is mostly emphasizing Hillary's large lead in delegates (because she has almost ALL the super-delegates pledged so far). But here 's what they are under-reporting:

There are 4,763 total Democratic delegates
- 770 super-delegates
= 3,993 regular delegates (allocated by primaries/caucuses)

2,383 delegates are needed for the party nomination
- 770 super-delegates
1,613 outstanding regular delegates needed for nomination

Excluding super-delegates, regular delegates allocated so far as of March 9, 2016:

Clinton 760
Sanders 546


Super-delegates can change their mind any time up until the DNC convention in July. If they don't vote with the popular vote, that could spell big trouble for the political insiders (and Bernie could even run as an Independent -- or his supporters could write in his name -- or they could vote Republican -- or they might not vote at all.)

But the media (especially on the cable news stations) are always totaling the delegate count with the super-delegates to make the election appear as though it's already a done deal for Hillary.

9 comments:

  1. Live streams were expected to be available on:

    Univision.com
    WashingtonPost.com
    CNN.com
    FUSION.net.

    http://wqad.com/2016/03/09/clinton-ahead-going-into-8th-debate-against-sanders/#

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  2. All day long — on MSNBC and CNN — they've had on a ton of pro-Hillary guests and pundits, blathering on and on about why they think Hillary would be a better president (and reminding us of all her super-delegates). What about EQUAL TIME for Bernie Sanders!

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  3. I woke up this morning to watch cable news, and they're doing what they've been doing --- praising Hillary and having (I'm guessing) a 10-to-1 ratio of guests and pundits on their shows who support Hillary --- and hardly any Bernie supporters. The media is DEFINITELY trying to infleunce the election...there's no doubt about it now.

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  4. Fossil fuel interests have pumped $3.25 million into the largest super PAC supporting Hillary Clinton's candidacy for the White House. Approximately one in every 15 dollars given to Priorities USA Action, which took in $50.5 million in contributions last year, came from donors linked to oil and natural gas interests.

    https://news.vice.com/article/fossil-fuel-investors-are-pumping-millions-of-dollars-into-hillary-clintons-campaign

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  5. Just because someone takes campaign money from someone else, it doesn't mean that money will influence a candidate in any way ... right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    And the person/corporation/superPAC that’s giving that money never expects anything in return that will benefit them ... right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    That being said . . .

    Fossil fuel interests have pumped $3.25 million into the largest super PAC supporting Hillary Clinton's candidacy for the White House. Approximately one in every 15 dollars given to Priorities USA Action, which took in $50.5 million in contributions last year, came from donors linked to oil and natural gas interests.

    But Bernie Sanders has no right to complain ... right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    https://news.vice.com/article/fossil-fuel-investors-are-pumping-millions-of-dollars-into-hillary-clintons-campaign

    The most disingenuous attack of the night came when Clinton interjected: "I just think it’s worth pointing out that the leaders of the fossil fuel industry, the Koch brothers, have just paid to put up an ad praising Senator Sanders.”

    She was referring to a web video released by Freedom Partners, part of the Koch political network, which highlighted Sanders’s opposition to the reauthorization of the Export-Import Bank. Just as Obama did (until he became president), the Vermont senator sees federal government-backed loans to General Electric and Boeing as corporate welfare.

    http://link.washingtonpost.com/view/5482a1103b35d0355e8bce5f3qair.78ie/fa568a33

    There is a tactic in debating called “the spread.” It’s when you throw out so many arguments that your opponent cannot possibly respond to all of them, especially with the limited time they have to speak.

    It’s especially effective when your arguments are just off the wall enough that the other side has not prepared responses ahead of time. Then, when you get a chance to respond to their refutation, you zero in on whatever they “dropped” and hammer them for it, spinning the judges on why it is crucially important to the broader topic being debated.

    It felt like Clinton was trying to do just that last night. Alas, this is not a high school debate tournament and the winner is not determined by points or on what competitive debaters refer to as “the flow.”

    By coming at him from all sides, Clinton’s overarching message was mushy and discordant. What’s so baffling is that Clinton did not need to go this route. Even if she wanted to attack, a lot of this dirty work is best left to surrogates – or even paid advertising.

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  6. BLACK MEN FOR BERNIE

    https://twitter.com/BlkMenForBernie

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  7. Just now, on MSNBC, Kassie Hunt is reporting from a Bernie Sanders rally in Florida ... so it's not a total 100% media blackout for Bernie, only a 99% blackout.

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  8. How We Got Trumped by the Media

    They’re so obsessed with the Donald that they can barely be bothered to cover the other candidates, much less the important issues.

    Trump doesn’t even have to go out on the road — he’s piped into everyone’s home.

    The Republican front-runner has sucked up so much media oxygen that the Democratic contest is gasping for air. The GOP’s turnout is way up, while Democratic turnout is down. Only in a handful of caucus and primary states, where the Bernie Sanders campaign has surged, is turnout holding steady — or, in some cases, exceeding levels reached in the 2008 competition between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

    In Massachusetts [where Bernie lost to Hillary by less than 17,000 votes - or 2%], nearly 20,000 Democrats dropped their party registration in order to vote in the Republican primary.

    Trump and his top two rivals (Rubio and Texas Senator Ted Cruz) was given twice as much time on network TV as the Clinton-Sanders contest.

    The saturation coverage of Trump has obscured the real story of 2016: Americans are strikingly agitated not just about politics and governance, but about an economic “recovery” that never seems to reach them, about real under- and unemployment figures that far exceed the official numbers, about wage stagnation that has continued for decades, and about the prospect that they are one trade deal or economic downturn away from losing it all.

    The latest Associated Press/GfK polls show that 68 percent of voters think the United States is off course. This is not a partisan view: Democrats as well as Republicans share a concern that the government isn’t making the right choices.

    CBS chief Les Moonves says of the ratings and revenue bonanza associated with the Trump moment: “It may not be good for America, but it’s damn good for CBS.” Moonves is right: Media coverage that’s all about Trump, and misses the real story of 2016, is terrible for America.

    Full article at the Nation:
    http://www.thenation.com/article/how-we-got-trumped-by-the-media/

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  9. I just saw this on CNN, so I looked it up... (per www.gop.com)

    This week, Clinton has been walking back any claims of misjudgment or mistakes regarding her email scandal, claiming, “nothing that I did was wrong, it was not in any way prohibited,” and that her private server was “permitted.” But Clinton’s exclusive use of private email while she was Secretary of State was unprecedented and violated several major rules and regulations. Here are just some of the many State Department rules and Federal laws she violated:


    Rule Violation #1: Clinton violated a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) she signed upon becoming Secretary by retaining records with classified information.

    Rule Violation #2: Clinton violated State Department regulations forbidding the storage of classified information anywhere other than "the chancery" or "consulate" even for "reasons of personal convenience."

    Rule Violation #3: Clinton used a BlackBerry to transmit classified information despite State Department policy prohibiting its use.

    Rule Violation #4: Clinton violated State Department policy by giving classified material to her lawyer despite the fact that he lacked an "approved classified material storage facility."

    Rule Violation #5: Clinton violated federal rules requiring she turn over work-related emails upon leaving office.

    https://www.goproject.gop.com/the-top-5-rules-clinton-broke-using-a-secret-email-server/

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