Thursday, February 4, 2016

Full Transcript & Video CNN Town Hall Derry NH Feb 3, 2016 - Clinton v Sanders

Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton at the CNN Town Hall at the Derry Opera House in downtown Derry, New Hampshire on February 3, 2016 (Moderated by CNN's Anderson Cooper)

Most Outrageous Remark: "No bank is too big to fail. No executive too powerful to jail." — Hillary Clinton at the town hall after the former Attorney General, Eric Holder, refused to prosecute bankers who broke the law — and who has recently endorsed Hillary Clinton — and is now campaigning for her.

Below: Eric Holder and Hillary Clinton
Eric Holder and Hillary Clinton

* Below are a few highlighted excerpts from the full raw transcript at CNN which were edited for this blog for easier reading and length — and with a few rebuttal notes. Videos are at Youtube

Table of Contents for Quick Reference

Bernie Sanders (First to Speak)

Bernie Sanders and Progressives

COOPER: There's been some back and forth on the campaign trail today about is Hillary Clinton a progressive. Senator Barbara Boxer, a supporter of Clinton, came back — fired back basically — at your campaign today, at you, saying of course Hillary Clinton is progressive — and said that Bernie Sanders was also a Democrat on some days. You had said that Hillary Clinton is a progressive on some days. Is that fair? Because there are some Democrats who...I mean, in your heart, are you a Democrat?

SANDERS: Sure. I have made a decision to run for the Democratic nomination to be president of the United States. I was for 16 years in the House Democratic Caucus, for nine years in the Senate Democratic Caucus. Right now I am the ranking member of the Budget Committee, appointed by the Democratic leadership and membership. A couple of years ago I was very proudly the chairman of the Senate Veterans Committee. So of course I am a Democrat, and running for the Democratic nomination. In terms of Secretary Clinton, I know the media is kind of making a big deal about this. All that I said, which is simply true, is I think — it was in November in Ohio, you may recall this. I don't know the context of it, but Secretary Clinton said "some people call me a moderate. And I proudly say that I am a moderate." That's what she said. So all I said is, you can't go and say you're a moderate on one day and be a progressive on the other day. Some of my best friends are moderates. I love moderates. But you can't be a moderate and a progressive. They are different. [Editor's note: Here's what she actually said on two different occasions.]


"It is rare that we have the opportunity we do now to have a real contest of ideas. To really think hard about what the Democratic Party stands for and what we want the future of our country to look like if we do our part to build it. I am a progressive who gets things done for people." (END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: There were a lot of your supporters who, when they heard that, didn't think or expressed their belief that she's not a progressive. But just so we're clear, do you believe Hillary Clinton is a progressive?

SANDERS: I thought she did a good job as secretary of State. I served with her in the Senate. We worked together on some issues. But there are other issues, Anderson, where I think she is just not progressive. I do not know any progressive who has a super PAC and takes $15 million from Wall Street. That's just not progressive. As I mentioned earlier, the key foreign policy vote of modern American history was the war in Iraq. The progressive community was pretty united in saying don't listen to Bush. Don't go to war. Secretary Clinton voted to go to war.Virtually all of the trade unions and millions of working people understand that our trade policies — NAFTA, CAFTA, permanent normal trade relations with China, etc. — have been written by corporate America, and the goal of it is to be able to throw American workers [out of work]. Millions of working people understand that our trade policies, NAFTA, CAFTA, Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China, et cetera, have been written by corporate America. And the goal of it is to be able to throw American workers out on the street, move to China and other low-wage countries, and bring their products back into this country. And that's one of the reasons why the middle-class of this country and the working class is struggling so hard. Secretary Clinton has been a supporter in the past of various trade policies, NAFTA and PNTR with China. Reluctantly, and after a lot of pressure on her, she came out against the TPP — and I'm glad that she did. And for a long time, Secretary Clinton was talking about the benefits of the Keystone pipeline. Well, there are no benefits to excavating and transporting some of the dirtiest fossil fuel in the world. I was in the lead in opposition to the Keystone pipeline. I'm in opposition to the pipeline right here in New Hampshire and the pipeline in Vermont. I think we have got to move aggressively away from fossil fuel if we're going to leave this planet in a way that's healthy and habitable for our kids. So those are just some of the areas.

COOPER: Did President Obama let progressives down?

SANDERS: I think in some areas, for example, in the trade area. Right now, I think today they signed the TPP in New Zealand. I think it is a continuation of bad trade policies. The president supports it, I strongly disagree with it. On the other hand, let's be very clear. And I got a little bit upset that our Republicans friends suffer from a very serious illness called amnesia. They forgot what the economy of this country was like seven years ago when we were losing 800,000 jobs a month, when we were running up a $1.4 trillion deficit —and by the way, the world's financial system was on the verge of collapse. President Obama and Vice President Biden have taken us a very, very long way from those dismal days. Are we where we want to be today? No. But we have come a long way and President Obama deserves an enormous amount of credit for that.

Bernie Sanders and his Political Revolution 

COOPER: Let me ask you ... when you use the term "revolution" it makes some people nervous. What's wrong with "evolution"?

SANDERS: Well, remember the Reagan revolution and the Gingrich revolution? Well, my revolution's a little bit different. But it is a process. Look, let's be clear. We have one of the lowest voter turnouts of any major country on earth. In the last election, where Republicans won a huge victory, 63 percent of the American people didn't vote — 80 percent of young people didn't vote. Now, when people don't vote, there's a political vacuum that's created. And I will tell you how it's filled. It's filled by lobbyists and campaign contributors who could care less about the middle class, who are there to protect the wealthiest people in this country. So what we are trying to do — and I would tell you Anderson, with some success — it is bringing working people and young people and lower income people into the political process. And when that happens, you know what? We will raise the minimum raise, we will have health care for all people, we will make public colleges and universities tuition free.

Bernie Sanders's Proudest Moment

COOPER: What's your proudest moment? Either professionally or personally.

SANDERS: I think my proudest general moment is being married for 27 years, having four great kids, some of whom are here tonight, and seven very beautiful grandchildren. That's my proudest.

COOPER: Your wife, Jane, is here. If we asked her to describe you in one word, what word do you think she'd use?

SANDERS: Tell 'em, Jane.


Hillary Clinton

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Hillary Clinton and Progressives

COOPER: You've talked about progressive values. Earlier in the day Senator Sanders was asked if you were progressive. He said some days. Are you really a progressive? In the past you have said you plead guilty to being a moderate.

CLINTON: Well, you know, you asked me this question in the first debate, right? [Editor's note: Yes, the video is right here]

COOPER: I did. And it's coming up again today.

CLINTON: And I said that I'm a progressive who likes to get things done. And I was somewhat amused today that Senator Sanders has set himself up to be the gatekeeper on who is the progressive, because under the definition that was flying around on Twitter and statements by the campaign, Barack Obama would not be a progressive, Joe Biden would not be a progressive, Jeanne Shaheen would not be a progressive, even the late, great Senator Paul Wellstone would not be a progressive. So I'm not going to let that bother me. I know where I stand. I know who stands with me. I know what I've done. But I don't think it helps for the senator to be making those kinds of comparisons because clearly we all share a lot of the same hopes and aspirations for our country that we want to see achieved. And I don't think it's appropriate that, you know, if Planned Parenthood endorses me or the Human Rights Campaign endorses me, you know, they're thrown out of the progressive wing and put into the establishment. That's just not anything we need to do. Let's have a good contest of ideas. Let's contrast where we stand. And that's what I intend to do for the next couple of days.

[Editor's note: Obama campaigned as a Progressive, but his policies on the TPP trade agreement and his coziness to Wall Street and large corporations were huge disappointments. Hillary's reference to Senator Jeanne Shaheen was outlandish, as she's not progressive either: She called Bernie a socialist with a capital "S" in an attempt to Red Scare, just like Republicans do; she also voted for the Iraq war; and she vehemently defended Hillary's loot from the Wall Street banks. And the membership of Planned Parenthood and the Human Rights Campaign didn't endorse Hillary, only their politically connected leaders did — just as the rank-and-file members of labor unions didn't endorse Hillary, only the politically connected leadership endorsed her. Whenever it went to a membership vote, they overwhelming chose Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton. See the polls here. And Bernie Sanders is the co-founder of the Congressional Progressive Caucus — so he of anyone would know who a REAL progressive is and is not. And Hillary IS NOT — she's only now claiming to be because she saw the popular rise of Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.]

Hillary Clinton on Bernie's Political Revolution

COOPER: What's wrong with a revolution?

CLINTON: Well, that's for Senator Sanders to explain, because that certainly is the core of his message to young people. I have a different take on it. I think the progress that we have made, and particularly the Democratic Party has made, has been hard fought for, hard won and must be defended. So I want to defend the Affordable Care Act. It is one of the great accomplishments, not only of this president, but of the Democratic Party going back to Harry Truman. You know, the Republicans are determined to repeal it. And they tried 62 times just to turn it back to the insurance companies. Senator Sanders and I share the same goal. We want to get to universal health care coverage. Before it was called Obamacare it was called Hillarycare, as you remember. I fought really hard. The insurance companies and the drug companies spent millions against me. I know what it's like to go up against the status quo and special interests. So when President Obama succeeded, I was thrilled. I don't agree with Senator Sanders that we should start over, that we should throw our country into a contentious national debate about health care again. We're at 90 percent coverage. I'm going to fix what needs to be fixed. We're going to move from 90 to 100, which is a lot easier to get to than starting at zero to get to 100. So we have a difference. And I think that is the difference. [Editor's note: Her entire argument here is a big lie, and it's been rebutted many times in the media already.]

Hillary Clinton and Iraq

QUESTION FROM AUDIENCE MEMBER: You clearly have very impressive foreign policy experience, and I've heard you point out to us that President Obama chose you and trusted you to be his Secretary of State. But I get stuck when I think about you voted for the Iraq war, which you now say was a mistake. What have you learned since that vote that could give me confidence that you wouldn't make a mistake of that magnitude again?

CLINTON: Oh, I think that's a very fair question. You know, I did make a mistake and I admitted that I made a mistake. And in large measure that mistake really arose from the Bush administration's approach to what they thought they could accomplish in Iraq. The very explicit appeal that President Bush made before announcing the invasion that getting that vote would be a strong piece of leverage in order to finish the inspections. And he made that comment. And the U.N. Inspector Hans Blix said, give us the time, we will find out. Give us the hammer over their head, namely the vote, and we will be able to find out what they still have in terms of WMD. And the Bush administration didn't give them the time. And that was a breach of faith, in my view. But you know I gave them the vote, in large measure because I thought that would give us the time and we would find out, short of invasion. Turned out not to be. And I really regret that that's the way President Bush proceeded. That would not be something you would have to worry about with me. If I tell you we're going to do diplomacy, we're going to hang tough, we're going to get answers, that's exactly what we will do.

Hillary Clinton and Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy

QUESTION FROM AUDIENCE MEMBER: Once you become the nominee and got elected, how are you going to defend yourself against right-wing attacks?

CLINTON: Well, I had a lot of practice. So I could laugh up here, but it's not easy. It is a brutal experience. And when it first started happening to me back in the early 1990s when I was working on health care. And you know I was just unrecognizable to myself. What talk radio was saying, what Republican members of Congress and their allies were saying. I was just stunned. I could not understand how they got away with it. And I have had to learn to take criticism seriously, but not personally. People ask you questions or criticize you, think about it seriously. There are lessons to be learned, often from people who don't agree with you. But don't take it personally so that it just paralyzes you, literally stops you in your tracks. And so now that I've been through this for so many years. My understanding of the political tactics that the other side uses is pretty well versed. They play for keeps. They play to destroy. They are constantly doing whatever they can to win. And they have a history now, going back, you know, 35-36 years of going after people who they believe they can't otherwise stop unless they engage in that negative attack. So right now, for example, a couple of hedge fund billionaires have started a super PAC to run ads against me. Karl Rove has you know solicited money from Wall Street to run ads against me. I view that as perversely flattering because clearly they know I mean what I say and I will do what I say. And I will stand in their way and I will stop them from perpetuating an agenda on America that is bad for our democracy, bad for our economy, bad for our societies. So I know I have to keep defending against them. But I'm the one who has the experience to do that. It's unlike anything you've ever gone through to be the subject of tens of millions of dollars of untrue, terrible attacks. And now the Koch brothers say they're going to spend $750 million to defeat the Democratic nominee. I'm still standing, and I will be standing. So don't worry about that.

COOPER: Let me just simply follow up. You mentioned attacks on the early 1990s.


COOPER: Do you still believe there's a vast right-wing conspiracy?


COOPER: I'm asking you.

CLINTON: Yes. It has gotten even better funded. You know, they brought in some new multi-billionaires to pump the money in. And, look, these guys play for keeps. They want to control our country. Senator Sanders and I agree on that completely. They want to rig the economy so they continue to get richer and richer, they could care less about income inequality.

[Editor's note: The way Bill Clinton lowered the tax rate on capital gains from 28% to 20% — or deregulated the banks? — or signed those trade agreements? Or signed welfare reform?]

CLINTON: They salve their consciences by giving big money to philanthropy, and, you know, getting great pictures of them standing in front of whatever charity they donated to.

[Editor's note: Like the Clinton Foundation?]

CLINTON: But make no mistake, they want to destroy unions.

[Editor's' note: Like when Hillary was on the board of directors at Wal-Mart for 6 years?]

CLINTON: They want to go after any economic interests that they don't believe they can control. They want to destroy our balance of power. They want to go after our political system and fill it with people who will do their bidding.

[Editor's note: Like the way her and her husband took in $125 million in speeches from bankers? Or the way she's currently accepting campaign money from big pharma, insurance companies, hedge fund mangers and banks?]

CLINTON: I said today in Dover, you know, I don't think all of the Republican candidates are so ill-informed about climate change that they say they don't know because they're not scientists. They're just doing the bidding of the Koch brothers. They're told don't you dare say climate change is real because we're in the fossil fuel business. So this is exactly what they are up to. And, yes, it is probably — look, at this point it's probably not correct to say it's a conspiracy because it's out in the open. You know, there is no doubt about what they're doing and who the players are and what they're trying to achieve. And they're shopping among the Republican candidates to figure out who among them will most likely do their bidding. So just know what we're up against because it's real and we're going to beat it. But it's going to take everybody working together.

[Editor's note: Despite all her rambling here, Hillary's vast right-wing conspiracy really began here, but she doesn't mention this.]

Hillary Clinton and Trust Issues

QUESTION FROM AUDIENCE MEMBER: My question is the number of factors that have eroded trust in you. What will you do to regain that trust — engender trust in Americans and me?

CLINTON: I acknowledge this, as personally painful as it is. When you have been subjected to the level, the velocity of attacks that come every day, even if there is no factual basis to it, it's just normal for people to say, gosh, there has got to be something, why do they keep saying this and then we do that.

[Editor's note: Now compare that to what she said at the CNN Iowa Democratic Presidential Town Hall on January 25, 2016 when she was asked about her honesty -- with video here.]

People have thrown all kinds of things at me, and I can't keep up with it. I just keep going forward — they fall by the wayside, they come up with all these outlandish things, they make these charges — I just keep going forward, because there's nothing to it. They throw all this stuff at me, and I'm still standing. But if you're new to politics, if it's the first time you really paid attention, you go "Oh my gosh! Look at all of this!" And you have to say to yourself, "Why are they throwing all of that?"

CLINTON: And, you know, I testify for 11 hours, there's nothing to Benghazi, they don't give it up, they keep coming after it. So I know that I have to really demonstrate as clearly as I can who I am, what I stand for, and what I've always done. I've always been guided by the same values. I have always listened to people. And I've always worked as hard as I could to produce results for people. So when I ran for the Senate the first time and I was out there and, you know, people were barraging, I was running first against Rudy Giuliani and all of that. And I was able to just keep going and tell people, here's who I am, here's what I do, I want to do this with you. And I won. And then since years later when I ran, I got a higher percentage. And then I did have, as you all remember, a really tough campaign against then-Senator Obama. We saw each other very up close and personal. And he wins and turns and asks me to be his secretary of state, because he trusts me, he trusts my judgment, he trusts my experience. So all I can do is to just get up every day and work to do what I believe our country needs, find ways to help people, whether it's on mental health or addiction or autism or student loans, whatever it might be. And I trust the American people. I trust the people of New Hampshire to see my lifetime of work and service and to sort out all of the static and to know that I will work my heart out for you. And that's what I hope you will understand.

Hillary Clinton and Wall Street


"We do not represent the interests of the billionaire class, Wall Street, or corporate America. We don't want their money. And I am very proud to tell you that we are the only candidate on the Democratic side without a Super PAC. And the reason that we have done so well here in Iowa, the reason I believe we're going to do so well in New Hampshire, and in the other states that follow, the reason is the American people are saying no to a rigged economy. (END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: We got a number of questions, even from people who support your policies, who say they do believe that you represent the interests of Wall Street and corporate America. How do you respond?

CLINTON: Well, look, that's just not the case.

[Editor's note: Right out of the gate she started lying! And almost everything she says here is ONE BIG FAT LIE!!! I could provide a hyperlink to a source on almost every word here!!! But it would take me much too long, as I've already spent a long time on this post already...and I don't even know if anyone will read it. What's amazing is, she got lots of audience applause and laughter!!! What were they drinking or smoking?]

CLINTON: And I did represent New York, obviously. There was no doubt that I took on a lot of what was going down on Wall Street, including calling them out on the mortgage issues, calling for a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau even before we got one created, calling for changes in CEO pay. But I honestly think that the best answer to this is the fact that everybody that I know who looks at what's happening in this campaign sees the same thing. The Wall Street interests, the money interests, the Republican political interests are spending a lot of money to try to defeat me. So I just find it kind of a strange argument. I happen to agree with Senator Sanders. I'm not just going after Wall Street though. I think that's too narrow a target. I think we need to go after a company like Johnson Controls that is trying to avoid paying taxes after all of us bailed it out by pretending to sell itself in a so-called inversion in Europe. It's a perversion. It should be stopped. I want to go after the hedge funds that have bought up drug companies, you know Valeant Pharmaceuticals, Turing Pharmaceuticals, taking drugs that have been around a long time and upping the price. So I take seriously the obligation that I would have as president once again to try to get the deck un-stacked, to get the odds favoring the average American again. And but I just have to — I have to respectfully say, I think Senator Sanders' target is too small, I really do. You know I respect him going after the big banks. I agree with him. No bank is too big to fail. No executive to powerful to jail.

[Editor's note: Ok, just one comment here. Remember: The former Attorney General, Eric Holder, refused to prosecute bankers who broke the law, and now he has endorsed Hillary Clinton and is now campaigning for her. See vfideo below]

CLINTON: But we actually passed the process to be able to take on banks that pose excessive risk in our financial system in Dodd-Frank. So let's know the next president has to implement, but doesn't have to achieve that. Here's what I want to do. I want to go after all the other culprits. It wasn't just the big banks. It was the insurance company AIG. It was the investment bank Lehman Brothers. It was Countrywide Mortgage. It was Wachovia. There were a lot of bad actors. And if all you do is look over here, I'm telling you, they're going to be over there in the shadow banking sector just cooking up all kinds of ways to once again put our economy at risk. So I've got no argument that we need to take on these vested interests. I just have a wider group that I think we need to go after, from pharmaceuticals, insurance companies, shadow banking and other corporations that I think are undermining our economy. And frankly they are undermining our democracy. This Johnson Controls thing really infuriates me. We bailed them out. The Republicans wanted the auto industry to just fail. They didn't care about the millions of jobs. Barack Obama and the Democratic Congress gave them a bailout. It turned out to be a good deal. All of us paid for it. They paid back the Treasury. So we didn't lose any money and we saved millions of jobs. And the auto industry just had a great year. Johnson Controls was one of those begging for the bailout. And now they're not going to pay their taxes? We're going to go right after that. That is absolutely wrong. And we need to be focused on getting a fix for that. [APPLAUSE FOR TOTAL B.S.]

Hillary Clinton and Paid Speeches

COOPER: One of the things that Senator Sanders points to, and a lot of your critics point to, is you made three speeches for Goldman Sachs. You were paid $675,000 for three speeches. Was that a mistake? I mean was that a bad error in judgment?

CLINTON: Look. I made speeches to lots of groups. I told them what I thought. I answered questions.

COOPER: But did you have to be paid $675,000?

CLINTON: Well, I don't know. That's what they offered, so... (LAUGHER) ... you know, every secretary of State that I know has done that.

COOPER: But they're not running for an office.

CLINTON: Well, I didn't know. To be honest I wasn't. I wasn't committed to running. I didn't know whether I would or not.

COOPER: You didn't think you were going to run for president again?

CLINTON: I didn't. You know, when I was secretary of State, several times I said 'You know, I think I'm done.' And you know, so many people came to me, started talking to me. The circumstances, the concerns I had about the Republicans taking back the White House, because I think they wrecked what we achieved in the 1990s with 23 million new jobs and incomes going up for everybody. I did not want to see that happen again. I want to defend President Obama's accomplishments and the progress we've made. I want to go further. So yes, I was convinced. But you know, anybody who knows me who thinks that they can influence me, name anything they've influenced me on. Just name one thing. I'm out here every day saying I'm going to shut them down, I'm going after them. I'm going to jail them if they should be jailed. I'm going to break them up. I mean they're not giving me very much money now. I can tell you that much. (LAUGHTER) Fine with me. I'm proud to have 90 percent of my donations from small donors and 60 percent, the highest ever, from women, which I'm really, really proud of... (APPLAUSE)

COOPER: So just to be clear, that's not something you regret, those three speeches, that money?

CLINTON: No, I don't, because, you know, I don't feel that I paid any price for it — and I am very clear about what I will do — and they're on notice.

[Editor's note : I couldn't resist.]

Hill and Bill: Breaking Bad

Hillary Clinton: What she'll tell young people who are "Feeling the Bern"

QUESTION FROM AUDIENCE MEMBER: I'm the proud mother of five girls, two of my own, three step-daughters. And unfortunately they are all "feeling the Bern." And I would like to know what you would do to convince them to vote for you.

CLINTON: How old are they?

AUDIENCE MEMBER They're 21, 22 and a couple are 23 — and a 25-year-old.

CLINTON: Well ... [then a few minutes of bla, bla, bla] I have the highest respect for Senator Sanders. But as the Concord Monitor said today in its writing about this, you know, it's, it's very hard to see how any of his proposals could ever be achievable. So I don't want to over promise. We've got too much of that. I want to tell people what I will do. I want to be specific because I do want to go back to the question I was asked earlier — recreate the trust that seems to have been splintered in America. We need to set big goals again. I am all for that. I have big, ambitious goals. Affordable college, early childhood education, making sure that we are on the path to paid family leave, all of which will help your daughters. But I also want them to hold me accountable. I want them to say, 'OK, how's that actually going to happen? What do we have to do to make it?' We've got to get 60 votes to break a filibuster in the Senate. Nancy Pelosi has said, we're not going to revisit healthcare. We're going to stick with the Affordable Care Act. That's exactly where I am. We're going to improve it. [Hear her flip-flop on this in her own words here]. Because I am somebody who wants to actually produce a real difference in people's lives. I am a progressive who gets results. And I will be a progressive President who gets results. And the final thing I would say is, it is still the case that there are challenges and obstacles to young women's ambitions. And I'm going to try to break the highest and hardest glass ceiling. I hope it splinters completely and, and I hope for your daughters it opens doors that might not be open right now, regardless of whether any of them ever do any politically. But in their lives, their profession, how they're treated. I hope it does give them more of a sense of empowerment. That's what I want for my daughter and my amazing granddaughter, and that's what I want for your daughters.

[Editor's note: The Clintons have millions of dollars. They are world famous. Hillary's daughter and granddaughter will never have to worry about any open doors for opportunity. This is total B.S.]

Hilary Clinton's Closing Statement

COOPER: I want you to be able to make your closing argument to the people in New Hampshire.

CLINTON: Well, thank you. Well, first of all, thanks again for being part of this process, this first in the nation primary. You know I said earlier today some people said well you know Sen. Sanders is ahead. And I respect that. And so maybe you know I should go onto the next state. And I said absolutely not. New Hampshire has been so good to me and my family. And I love campaigning in New Hampshire. I love this process. So, you're going to have to put up with me. I'm going to be going around the state, going to as many events as I can, answering as many questions, trying to talk about what I am offering. I really believe that we have a chance to build on the progress we've made and to get results for people. To get the economy producing more good jobs, to get incomes rising again, that's my goal. I will not raise middle class taxes because the middle class hasn't even yet recovered from the Great Recession. We're going to stick with the Affordable Care Act. We're going to make it work. We're going to get early childhood education, affordable college and pay down student debt, a lot of the agenda that is important to our country, particularly to young people. And we're going to defend our rights. We're going to defend a woman's right to make her own health care decisions. We're going to defend Planned Parenthood. We're going to defend marriage equality and end discrimination against LGBT Americans. And we're going to take on the gun lobby because it is absolutely unconscionable to have...(APPLAUSE)... 33,000 people a year die from gun violence. So please, join me in this campaign. I hope you will come out and vote for me on Tuesday. And I will fight for you every single day in the White House. Thank you all very much.

COOPER: I want to thank both candidates for coming tonight, the voters for being here and asking such amazing questions. (APPLAUSE)


Source to full transcript at CNN:

Updated Feb 4, 2016: To be clear, there was a lot more in the CNN transcript, such as their views on foreign policy. And begrudgingly, I have to admit, on this topic, Hillary did pretty well after being in the job as Secretary of State for 4 years (whether you agree with her views or not). But also, just to be clear, Hillary also had said that President Obama had nominated her for Secretary-of-State because of her "experience" — and because he trusted her judgment. But also remember, it was Obama who criticized Hillary Clinton for voting for the Iraq war when he was first running for President in 2008. And at that time, Hillary's "experience" in foreign policy was mostly gained from traveling around the world as First Lady. And before being elected President in 2008, Obama himself had little foreign policy experience — but Hillary now says she has more experience in foreign policy than Senator Bernie Sanders as a reason for being president in 2016. So if you're more interested in their contrasting views on this subject, read the CNN transcript. Personally, I would like to know who Bernie's foreign policy advisors would be and who he might nominate as Secretary of State. But IMHO, I believe the economy is our number one problem right now.


  1. The Tweet of the Day:


    Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein said that Bernie Sanders' insurgent candidacy "has the potential to be a dangerous moment." Blankfein avoided saying whether he supported former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, though both Clintons have long ties to Blankfein and to Goldman Sachs, which has been a heavy donor to Bill Clinton's "charity work" (THE FOUNDATION)

    Read more:

    * Editor's Note: Yes. The village peasants are going to grab their torches and pitchforks and storm the damn ramparts!

  3. A man named Chris, who said he earned $41,000 per year, asked Sanders to explain his middle-class tax hike. Sanders explained that, by adopting a Medicare-for-all approach to universal healthcare, Chris’ tax burden would increase by $500, but he would likely save $5,000 per year from no longer having to pay insurance premiums.

    Cooper followed up: “Chris, does that work for you?”

    Chris replied: “If it saves me on health insurance premiums, I will gladly pay more taxes.” The Sanders campaign couldn’t have hoped for a better soundbite to express the incentives of progressive healthcare policy and progressivism in general.

  4. When asked by Cooper why she took $300,000 from them, Hillary replied, shrugging: “That’s what they offered.”

  5. Comment at the Guardian: "Of course Obama isn't a progressive, he's moderate to radical right (TPP/TTIP), like Hillary, he ran as a progressive, but once elected, he abandoned the progressive agenda he campaigned on while throwing away his mandate for change. It is Hillary who is attempting to be gatekeeper by redefining what a progressive is, forcing the gate open to include those who aren't really progressives."


    Comment at the Guardian: "Hillary needs to explain why she is being financed by the same people who caused the recession-slowdown-meltdown (insert appropriate words) of the economy. Why is she opposed to Glass-Steagle (which would have prevented or seriously diminished the "Recession" when the banks that were 'too big to fail' had failed. She needs to explain how Top Secret data wound up on her personal server with no protection and without the knowledge of the agencies that data affected. She needs to talk her way around a possible criminal investigation. She also has to explain how she out-spent (to buy the vote) in Iowa Bernie Sanders 6-to-1 and barely broke even."


    Comment at the Guardian: "Hillary plays her supporters to be the dupes that they are. I thought Trump was outrageous in manipulating his nonthinking supporters but Hillary has got him beat each day of the week and twice on Sunday. How can her supporters not see her for what she is: a liar who will do or say whatever it takes to get elected. I am truly embarrassed that there are so many who lack the critical thinking skills to see how she plays them for fools."

  6. As first lady, Hillary Clinton echoed her husband's administration’s tough-on-crime rhetoric and strongly supported landmark achievements such as the 1996 welfare reform bill, which placed onerous new restrictions and requirements on recipients of the program, and the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

    This wasn’t a mere case of spousal solidarity: Hillary Clinton’s own ideological background is rooted in the “New Democrat” tradition embraced by her husband’s administration. The New Democrats pursued a “third way” between the European-style social democracy and free-market orthodoxy and rallied together under the auspices of the now defunct Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) in the late 1980s. Their platform was a direct response to the Reagan-era triumph of conservatism and its perceived sway among ordinary voters.

    According to the New Democrats, blue-collar whites were wary of “big government.” By crafting policies palatable to these voters, Clintons and their allies, the story goes, were able to capture the White House and at least guarantee some form of progressive governance, albeit watered down, after the era of Reagan.

    But much of this conventional wisdom is wrong. As political scientists Thomas Ferguson and Joel Rogers note in “Right Turn: The Decline of the Democrats and the Future of American Politics,” in 1979 close to 80 percent of Americans polled thought there was too much power concentrated in large corporations. A majority in the same survey thought that business was making too much and supported a cap on corporate profit.

    What the Clinton Democrats actually did was build a coalition based around the interests of business, not those of most voters. They knew that they had to replace the fragile alliance between organized labor and the old Democratic business bloc that held together the New Deal (though it may be shocking to recall now, the oil industry was a key component of this) with new elites incorporated from Wall Street and Silicon Valley.

    This approach was never popular with working-class voters, even if many still voted for it over Republican alternatives. Over the long run, pro-business and anti-labor policies such as NAFTA only undermined the popular base that Democratic politicians relied on. It wasn’t that poor and working-class people all became Republicans; they just simply weren’t inspired to turn out to vote.

    The closeness of this week’s Iowa caucuses, which ended in a virtual tie between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, is a sign that the New Democrat chickens are coming home to roost...

    President Barack Obama, despite his promises of change during and after his 2008 primary battle with Clinton, has represented continuity with much of the DLC agenda. Yet many Democratic voters have opposed New Democratic policies, as well as Clinton’s closeness with Wall Street and aggressive stances on foreign policy, including her vote in favor of the Iraq War as a senator from New York.

    Even if Bernie Sanders loses the race this year, there is a real possibility that an emerging generation of “Sanders Democrats” — pushing traditional social-democratic solutions, such as universal health care and public jobs programs, to the country’s problems — will be a thorn in the side of the Democratic leadership caste for a long time to come.

    A party that has been chasing “Reagan Democrats” since the 1980s will struggle to adjust without losing its powerful business allies. If history is any guide, party elites will choose their funders over their voters, and the huge numbers of millennials who support Sanders and his political vision will have to express their rage and discontent elsewhere.

    It’s hard to say what form that outrage will take, but it’s enough to wonder whether Clinton solutions can triangulate the problems of this era as well as they did two decades ago.

    The Nation:

  7. Poll: Sanders Leads Clinton by 20 Points in New Hampshire

    Bernie Sanders maintains a significant double-digit lead over Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, according to an NBC News/Wall Street/Marist poll conducted after Clinton's narrow apparent win in Monday's Iowa caucuses. Sanders gets the support of 58 percent of likely Democratic primary voters, while Clinton gets 38 percent -- essentially unchanged from last week's NBC/WSJ/Marist poll, which showed Sanders ahead by a 57 percent-to-38 percent margin in the Granite State.

    * Hillary Clinton BEAT Obama in this State in 2008.

    1. The village peasants are grabbing their torches and pitchforks and storming the ramparts!

    2. UPDATE: CNN poll shows Bernie 61% to Hillary's 30%

  8. New York Times:

    Some 87 percent of likely New Hampshire primary voters ages 18 to 29 said they would vote for Mr. Sanders in the state’s primary on Tuesday, compared to 13 percent for Mrs. Clinton, according to a UMass-Lowell poll. Mrs. Clinton’s supporters say the support of middle-aged and older voters is enough for her to capture the nomination [and to Hell with the futures of young people!] The discomfort, and, in some cases hostility, toward Mrs. Clinton among young voters is striking. Some of them, feeling the pinch of economic hardship or the burden of college loans, suggest she is too cozy with big banks and corporate America. And polls also show they do not find her trustworthy.

  9. Polls show (like all other online polls before this) that Bernie won.

    Bernie Sanders 85.59% (7,537 votes)
    Hillary Clinton 11.16% (983 votes)
    It was a draw 3.25%

    Bernie Sanders 90.64% (6,584 votes)
    Hillary Clinton 9.36% (680 votes)

  10. Before you watch the MSNBC debate tonight between Bernie and Hillary, see my last Tweet:

    FYI, you can also watch it LIVE-streamed at YouTube at 9 PM Eastern

  11. Howard Dean accusing Bernie Sanders of attacking the integrity of Hillary Clinton by mentioning her speeches to Goldman Sachs.

    Shorted edited version (93 seconds)

    Full 7 minute clip)

    My post: